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Them, and it's having an impact on decisions they make, right? >> well, there's tremendous doubt and anxiety with small business about the direction of the economy. and when you add to it that they cannot control their costs, that causes people not to hire individuals. we've asked the question if you get a letter at home, what are you going to open first from a number of different sources? the number one is the irs, but the number two is from their health care provider. so this is something that the american people are following very carefully, and small business is absolutely glued to it. bec...

The ongoing case, where they have said that they need an extension of time upon which they could respond to our lawsuit, which is normal in these kind of complex cases. in it they say they have an ongoing criminal investigation conducted by the fbi against the irs, and irs personnel. now, if it was a phony scandal, you wouldn't expect fbi investigation. now, granted, none of my clients have been contacted but assuming they're doing it at least internal review before they get to the victims, that's not phony. it was eric holder who said there was potential criminal investigations and criminal c...

And should somebody step in and say enough is enough. who might that somebody be? we'll debate that fair and balanced coming up. bill: the clough question. martha: the clown issue. bill: new questions for the irs official lois lerner. she took the fifth before congress. congressman darrell issa asking why she use ad personal email account to conduct official government business? here he is on "hannity" talking about that. >> when she see she circumvented the official mail in private, i hate to call it private, but using non-government email accounts for government-type business or communicatio...

Government bureaucrat or here a government department head would take information off their government account, move it to their personal account, it is a really simple question, why would you do that? the only plausible explanation is, she is probably sharing that information with someone else and she didn't want it to be part of as i said freedom of information act request. maybe she has hopefully a better answer than that. but someone will have to respond to this. she is claiming the fifth again. that is one of the reasons i look at that immunity. >> we went out and asked americans about th...

Search-and-rescue duties were physically and mentally demanding but looking after a three-week old baby is right up there. bill: he is right about that, huh? prince william's tour of duty comes to an end the end of the month where he will immediately come home and change diapers. martha: which he did within the first 24 hours like most dads do. bill: i want to see pictures. martha: bill is getting antsy. where are the pictures? where are the pictures. she said she would tweet pictures from the phone of the baby. bill: been a month or three weeks? what has it been? we saw like his nose popping ...