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Republican side in that from my reading, the agriculture committee floor managers were working with democratic counterparts to protect against deeper cuts in food stamps and other members of the leadership came in on top. and those agreements broke down. is that correct? or am i wrong? >> that is absolutely correct. mr. lucas, i thought, was doing a real good job working with mr. peterson. >> the republican ag leader, exactly. >> yes. the chair, chairman lucas, and, of course, the ranking member, peterson. they were doing a good job of working together, working with their caucuses. then all of...

Net, michelle, right, and we talk about what the republicans are trying to do or not do. eric cantor was out there on the floor of the house, pushing forward the sutherland amendment, and then post hoc, saying this isn't about -- >> this shouldn't surprise us. this is the party who spoke contemptuously of people who feel they are entitled to food. you know -- >> correct. >> no -- >> would i add -- i would add the following. i don't think there was any safety net program. maybe unemployment insurance, that actually did a better job in the depths of the great recession, of truly cutting poverty ...