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Leaves around the interviews. all the agents or investigators first. they do interviews of people, they do detective work, like frank said they're gonna interview everybody in the building. who they do everything by agents or detectives, right there so they can solve the case. the commanders there are back in the other room, or the end of a big room, and they're making overall decisions on how to wear the s.w.a.t. commanders need to go, you get sightings of the, shooter where the squad will have to be apprehended. so there's a lot of moving parts going on. basically the commanders will get tog...

High schools, i imagine these come in handy in a big big way in situations like these these days. >> our young people are so adept at using them and how quick they can type on those, you know, being a pinball man in a digital world, but they use these devices like with lightning speed, and they can communicate the whereabouts of the shooter, identify the shooter to the police, quickly to their parents, to outside sources, and that no doubt would have come to play in this case in is a great sign to see the school buses here. what they decided is that we can safely evacuate these children and br...

Far and wide. >> in movies you see often conflict between the hostage negotiator and the s.w.a.t. commander on the scene and they both have different strategies and different beliefs. is that what happens in real life? you were saying that the s.w.a.t. person on the scene would have to make a good case for why they need to go in and if they can't, you know, the status quo continues. >> well, the decision comes down to the incident commander. usually the highest ranking member from the police department on the scene and he or she will make their decisions based on input from the hostage negotia...

Negotiator and the s.w.a.t. commander on the scene and they both have different strategies and different beliefs. is that what happens in real life? you were saying that the s.w.a.t. person on the scene would have to make a good case for why they need to go in and if they can't, you know, the status quo continues. >> well, the decision comes down to the incident commander. usually the highest ranking member from the police department on the scene and he or she will make their decisions based on input from the hostage negotiators, from the s.w.a.t. commanders and then -- and plus their own pers...

The use of long rifles. how to gather intelligence, intercept communications. a lot of those are very similar. so the police have to know those things. in the united states, we used our domestic law enforcement and our local city, county, state, and federal s.w.a.t. and special response teams. and they do a great job doing that. we always have, you know, military can be backed up, but the best in the u.s. we don't use the military for those operations. commanders around the world, all the s.w.a.t. commanders in the united states, they're watching this, they're already gaming this. they are alr...