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>> we have a very polarized electorate, both sides are energized and ready to fight. republicans have won more special elections under president trump then we've lost, we need to keep that in mind. it's hard to keep up with where you all are, you either think of the political environment is so great that you're going to win every district on a swing area or it's so bad that you have to have president obama and eric holder out there in every state legislature and going to the court and it's very interesting that we are having this discussion on a pennsylvania special election because it was jus...

Find that common ground. >> i do wonder about wisconsin. i think it could be up for play there 2020. i watched trump and say if these that good running into 2020, the democrats better have a strong opponent, someone of color, a mixed ticket, whatever, they better have a strong ticket that's going to beat him. thank you to my guests. republican charlie dent comes from the biggest swing area of pennsylvania and he's pretty open minded. plus coming up the one-year anniversary after trump taking office, a hell of a lot of marchers a year ago. this is "hardball" saturday night live where the action...

Right now are in the position where they don't want to be perceived as caving into their bases. so every day that goes on as they raise the stakes it becomes harder for them to back off and find that common ground. >> we're all watching wisconsin, sir. i do wonder about wisconsin. i think it could be up in play in 2020. i watched trump the other day in western pennsylvania. i said it the other night, if he's that good running into 2020 the democrats better have a strong opponent, man or woman, someone of color, a mixed ticket, whatever. they have to have a strong ticket that going to beat trum...

I said it the other night. if he is that good, in the next 2020, the democrats, a strong opponent, someone of color, a mixed ticket, they have to have a strong ticket to beat trump with him. thank you charlie psyches, and coming up. we head 19 hours into the government shutdown. the biggest swing area of pennsylvania. which will tell you how pennsylvania is going to go. he is open-minded. women's march, 2.0. a hell of a lot of resistance a year ago. we will fl you about it. saturday night, this is "hardball."

It's about our tribe and what do we have to do to get our bill passed. it really reflects badly on the party and they will have a hard time recovering from helping roy moore get into the u.s. senate if that's what happens. >> quickly, robert, does it feel like a tight race like anyone knows? >> it does because suburban voters in birmingham, this is a swing area.