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27,000 miles, interviewed trump voters in ten swing counties to discover what was behind the historic 2016 election. joining me now, the coauthors of "the great revolt, reshaping america politics." good to see both of you. thank you for joining us and thank you for the book. an important contribution to our debate. what did you mainly learn? >> well, one of the most important things that i learned is that this is a very aspirational group of people. and their influence in our country go well beyond the ballot box. so you aren't just feeling the pressure from them in who people voted for in the...

27,000 miles, interviewed trump voters in ten swing counties to discover what was behind the historic 2016 election. joining me now, the coauthors of "the great revolt, reshaping america politics." good to see both of you. thank you for joining us and thank you for the book. an important contribution to our debate. what did you mainly learn? >> well, one of the most important things that i learned is that this is a very aspirational group of people. and their influence in our country go well beyond the ballot box. so you aren't just feeling the pressure from them in who people voted for in the...

Alabama is trump country. can you look at any poll trump is really popular. in 2012 when he ran, he has always been polarizing figure even in alabama. i think tonight if he pulls out a victory, the counties i see coming and there are 15 key counties that are swing counties that he either narrowly won or lost since 2012. is he overperforming in a lot of those counties. right now the "new york times" is a little askew in giving those percentages on the race. i think roy moore is overperforming now. a lot of voters. tell pollsters what they were going to do. >> sean: 2016 way over here that in fa...

It is weighing on this administration. >> donald trump's campaign manager just got indicted. we already have something that mueller has come out on -- >> fun fact. >> he's a very low campaign chairman. >> i do not think that the average person in lets say louden county virginia was like this whole russia this, i'm going to -- yes, does russia, what they know of it, play a role in it, sure. but i don't think it's top of mind. i think the way in which he approaches the presidency is for at least in virginia and these swing counties is something that was -- stay with me everyone else. when we c...

Authenticity. >> the real clear politics average of polls has the democrat up over the republican by 6% outside the margin of error. it's no secret why pence campaigned in the southeastern portion of virginia. that's republican territory, coal country. his appearance came after president trump abandoned president obama's clean power plant. given the lack of interest in the race it's important republicans get their base out. it is in rural counties like washington and southwest virginia where the gop base is. the democratic base in the northern counties. the deciding may be the swing counties. ...