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Symone crazy. think of president trump as the martin luther king of health care. >> oh, jeffery, jeffery. >> when i was a kid did not want to introduce the civil rights bill because he said it wasn't popular, he didn't have the votes for it, et cetera. dr. king kept putting people in the streets in harm's way to put the pressure on so the bill would be introduced. that's what finally worked. >> jeffery, you do understand that dr. king was marching for civil rights because people that looked like he were being beaten, dogs were being second on them. basic human rights were being withheld from t...

Trump who says one thing and does another. we don't know what the president would do. all we can do is go off what he is saying. what he is saying is if you don't give me what i want, i withhold from everybody. that will hurt people. i don't think we can use this rhetoric, alisyn, when we deal with people's lives. people with serious illness from cancer down the line. i think we need to step back and the president should take a more humane tone and course of action when talking about the issue. >> jeffery, does it scare people when they hear it? it is a negotiating tactic and it scars people. ...