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Whether it could have been totally unwitting? >> i can't prove that. what is remarkable is at times the synchronization and repeatedty taking propaganda and spinning them into campaign stumps or using them as talking points was quick. you see stone who says i've heard wikileaks has something coming out. he communicated openly with guccifer, which is a russian hacker. why go to russian intel operation, why go to russian sites and take their talking points to use against another american? it's curious. there's two parts. is it, one he's complicit and coordinating? i think that's unlikely. maybe ...

Attack on are our elections and how the trump campaign acted to amplify what the russians were doing, whether they knew that's what we were doing or not. former fbi special agent clinton watts joins us now. thanks for spending time with us this evening. >> thanks for having me, rachel. >> i'd like to start by asking about that question that i just raised about willingness. you described repeatedly moments where you saw donald trump the candidate and other people in his campaign including his campaign manager amplifying what had been done by the russians, reiterating it, giving it more substanc...

Country and as a business, news business, but at this point are you worried or concerned about the potential of collusion between elements of the trump campaign and russian intelligence services? >> yes. there's two ways to look at how russian active measures get propelled amongst the trump campaign. is it coordination and synchronization? at times we saw people on twitter say, i've talked too goose fer. the other part is opportunism. why would you look at russian propaganda to go against your american opponent? that's crazy, especially coming from a republican candidate looking back to the re...

Therefore, were slow and didn't do anything. >> steve rattner. >> to david's question, you think that gap lies at the fbi, that they're the ones who didn't really make that connection between the two and nobody at justice, nobody in the white house and nobody anywhere else who said, guys, there are broader implications than simply whether the russians are getting into our e-mail systems? >> no. i think it's one of the scenes when we don't have a government approach for the threat. we've been so focused on terrorism that nobody looked at why do we want to hack this information, we thought it wa...

Clinton watts, a former fbi agent who testified yesterday on capitol hill. let's play that. >> at this point, are you worried or concerned about the potential of collusion between elements of the trump campaign and russian intelligence services? >> yes. there's two ways to look at how russian active measures get propelled amongst the trump campaign. is it coordination and synchronization? >> people said on twitter, i talked to guccifer. i talked to wikileaks and they have something coming out. that's collusion, when i see that. the other part is opportunism, which is also strange. why would yo...