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People in those states. >> shepard: so people getting their insurance or getting health care through medicaid expansion, maybe not today or tomorrow, but they will lose that coverage? >> what is expected to happen, when the federal government backs off that nine out of $10, the states won't make that up and they will shut the systems down. >> shepard: all right. good to see you. >> good to see you. >> shepard: more ahead on this later from capitol hill. lots of reaction from lawmakers including senate republicans slamming the gop plan. we'll keep an eye on capitol hill. president trump is tryi...

The first chief technology officer under president obama and thanks for coming back and joining me. i know you've read over this report. there are some familiar hacking terms in the report like phishing, malware. what caught your eye? how sophisticated was this particular hacking operation? >> well, let's start with maybe the troublesome part of the repo report, the least sophisticated methods of attacking were deployed to take these systems down. essentially, the notion that, in this case, the russian intelligence service identified maybe a thousand people targeted them and tried to send them...

Important one which is regardless even if this is just a coincidence, it's a reminder of how vulnerable we are, whether it comes to government computers, our personal information to a cyber attack. in fact coincidentally, the homeland security secretary jeh johnson is giving a piece is on cyber security that was planned before as we speak. this should be a wakeup call as if we needed that right? >> no we shouldn't need it. this is something -- i belt if this when i was still in the fbi. this goes back to the early 1990s, the fear of information warfare and the fear that the u.s. is the most vu...

Them, and this has been going on, as i said, for mr. president two decades. -- for almost two decades. jenna: there seems to be this perception that a military option or airstrikes would be quick and easy, not that much of a commitment. and, again, it just seems to be a general perception. is that accurate? >> well, first of all, it would probably be an air campaign as opposed to an airstrike. the iranians have sophisticated air defenses -- jenna: and what's the difference, by the way? i'm sorry, general, but what's the difference between the air campaign and airstrike? air campaign's longer, ...