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Manages to break the will of the ukrainians, now that we see it's real, we give up. then he's got something he wouldn't attack. maybe just change the government, come in and take it over. i don't think that's going to happen. i think president zelensky's standing firm and the people of ukraine are behind him. they don't want to be absorbed back into russia. they don't want that relationship. they want the relationship with the west. so the fact is we're continuing to talk. we hope mr. putin won't do it. it will dramatically alter the way we look at russia and it will also have a lot of implica...

Taliban because of doha agreement, if we busted that agreement we couldn't have counted on that, after may 1st those troops would have been in harm's way, much worse than they were, and we believed that would have required a plus up of troops. you can argue you can plus up troops forever and stay in afghanistan forever but the commander in chief determined that was not sustainable, acceptable, so we began to draw down and we had to do it in a quick way because we couldn't trust the taliban, couldn't trust their word they wouldn't attack us, so we moved quickly to get the troops drawn down. >> ...

You have crew members that may have timed out. it's one big mess. i did get some information from a source who says that their investigators have looked into what caused this system wide breakdown here this system wide shutdown as far as their computer systems and they determined that it is not the work of hackers. they say it's not connected to what happened at the new york stock exchange either. they have determined it's solely a technical glitch relate to that faulty router not enabling their computer systems to talk to one another. so this source knocking down this idea that perhaps this w...

Important one which is regardless even if this is just a coincidence, it's a reminder of how vulnerable we are, whether it comes to government computers, our personal information to a cyber attack. in fact coincidentally, the homeland security secretary jeh johnson is giving a piece is on cyber security that was planned before as we speak. this should be a wakeup call as if we needed that right? >> no we shouldn't need it. this is something -- i belt if this when i was still in the fbi. this goes back to the early 1990s, the fear of information warfare and the fear that the u.s. is the most vu...

Thoughts on this? >> well look i think increasingly the challenge of cyber security is a national deal it's a national imperative. so many of our financial systems, our energy systems, a wide spectrum of our society is driven by technological opportunities to be affected by a cyber attack so as we saw with what happened with the files of tens of thousands of federal employees and the effect that it had there, we can understand the effect that it could have more broadly, so i'm -- you know i'm looking forward to continuing to hear what the government says. i mean it's not just the stock exchang...