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About those who are on the ground observing the alleged russian advance on kyiv are seeing confidence, supply chain problems and here, this is rob lee, a defense policy expert quoted, kyiv is the decisive mission, the objective, yet they're sending in very old -- including these old t-72 tanks that went into product way back in the cold war. why? why would the russians use old equipment like that? >> john, because they don't have anything else. they have more modern tanks b. they're not deployed. they haven't been fielded the logistics systems is the not keeping up with modern warfare. if you ...

Reported uptick in shelling in recent days. all this, as talks to try to end the fighting continue. but now, vladimir putin has been briefed on the depot attack, and it could have a negative effect on the talks. the strike on the oil facility will probably do little to hold up russia's invasion of ukraine. but if the ukrainians are behind it, it would show they're not afraid to strike back on the country that is attacking them. >> thank you very much. i want to turn to retired air force colonel cedric leighton. >> the tanks will be t-72 tanks,

Its tanks back, it would also have aircraft that it is not using operationally, for example. and missile defence systems, in the us it is particularly important there. and that is really what the ukrainians are used to using, and so thatis ukrainians are used to using, and so that is what they need. some of the british tanks, for example, if they had them in stockpiles, would need to completely new training for the ukrainians. really it is about russian kit, who has got russian kit, and if we think about that in terms of nato, it is often the countries on the eastern flank that have some of th...

To using, and so that is what they need. some of the british tanks, for example, if they had them in the stockpiles or we were to offer them, would need completely new training for the ukrainians. so really it is about russian kit, who has got russian kit, and if we think about that in terms of nato, it is often the countries on the eastern flank and the former warsaw pact countries that have some of the kit. what are the ukrainians looking for? they've asked for tanks, you know, they are used to operating the t—64 tank, quite an old one that has been updated a little bit. and also the t—7...

To operating the t—64 tank, quite an old one that has been updated a little bit. and also the t—72, and lesser the t—80. so their tanks are potentially countries like poland, hungary, bulgaria may have. but they would be using some of those, especially the more newer variants. and then also they have looked for air defence systems and actually anti—ship systems, too, missile systems. and again, this is where the us would probably come in. we know that they have been getting a lot of stingers which are effective at low altitudes, but what the ukrainians are looking for is the next level...