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And if the allies insist that for every t-72 tank they send to ukraine they need an m1a1 from us, that's going to be problematic. we just don't have enough of them to be sent in. so, figuring out how to measure what we would need to send to the polls, the bulgarians and others so they can start arming and providing more capabilities to the ukrainians, it's just a tough task. remember that also we want these countries to be able to defend ourselves with our help should this in some ways escalate to nato territory. i do think that we need to start talking about thinking about security guarantees...

They need air support. >> tanks. >> this is real battle. this is war we haven't fought since we invaded iraq really. >> t 72 jim sciutto is reporting these russian-era tanks, soviet tanks, some in nato hands. the u.s. is trying to get them to the ukrainians. will they help? >> absolutely. and the pols have hundreds of these tanks. now what kind of condition they're in, how modern they are? do they have night vision capacity and so forth, have they been upgraded? then if the pols and others give up their tanks, are they back filled by what are old m1's? what's your production rate. what about t...

Tried to point this out in a tweet over the weekend, you do not just have to consider the piece of equipment itself, but also the support infrastructure, the fueling required, the mechanics, the supporters, the trainers, as well as the operators. so when you're talking about lots of airplanes, it requires the technology and the technical support to those airplanes that are being delivered. some of the more modern aircraft that ukraine is requesting, it's not that the ukrainians couldn't fight in them, it's just do they have the individuals that have been trained to care for them, to refuel the...

The u.s. has already agreed to back fill poland with american abrams, m1 abrams tanks, which are a more advanced tank. but the ukrainians know how to use the t-72. they have them themselves. an administration official who i talked to about this on friday said that part of what they're doing is getting ready for this fight to shift to the donbas. i meanwhile seeing the imagery of soviet -- of russians, sorry, of russian troops withdrawing from the areas north of kyiv, but they're not withdrawing just to go home as the pentagon has said repeatedly over the past few days. they're not returning ba...

Their support militarily and defensewise to the ukrainian fighters. just this week, the u.s. authorized sending over $300 million worth of security assistance to ukraine. this would include skrd drones, night vision equipment, as well as anti--drone systems within really bringing the total contributed to ukraine to more than $2.3 billion. now additionally, sources have told cnn that the u.s. is working to help facilitate the transfer of soviet-made tanks from allied countries into ukraine. it's unclear just now where the -- where the tanks will be coming from or how many will be sent. but thes...