>> jim, that's part of it that has to be stopped. there can be no shame in it. if they need the help, get them the help. if you're a sergeant, lieutenant, captain, major, whatever rank you are, you better stand up and say he's getting help and mind your business and do your job. this is on so many levels and there is -- i got to say it again. jim, let me tell you this. i lost -- i've lost three academy classmates to suicide. one hung himself, two others shot themselves. it is real. it happens. and there's no shame in it for what the job that you're required to do on a daily basis, it can happen. be able to take care of yourself. >> listen, i hope folks hear your words. anthony barksdale, thank you. we'll do our part.