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Medicaid, once the mandate is gone you will give up your free medicaid and replace it with nothing. the cbo is full of errors -- not errors but bad assumptions, and that's the only way you can get to the bad numbers, and it's not damage control but it's laying out what we thought would happen, the cbo doesn't do a very good job at counting coverage. >> reporter: unraveling that just a little bit, drops in medicaid coverage are definitely a factor in this estimate, but the estimate also suggested that the immediate problem will be the loss in penalties for not having coverage and people will si...

Million fewer americans that will have insurance, and you have been critical of the republican plan before it was announced and i want to get your reaction? >> there's no replacement to the repeal. they are not telling the truth. this analysis by an independent body headed by a republican appointee is telling the truth, that 24 million people will lose their coverage. if you are over 60 your coverage will cost you $10,000 more, and 8,000 to $10,000 depending on what part of the country you are living in, and they are going after senior citizens in a big way and that's a problem. they are going...

Coverage but the legislature cut the coverage and the citizens of the united states understand bs when they hear it and they have been hearing a lot of it. >> are there numbers besides the number of the uninsured, but it suggests premiums will go down -- >> wait, wait, stop right there. for a senior citizen, for people over 60, your coverage under this plan will be 8 to $10,000 a year more than currently, and when you say it will go down, yeah, sure, it will go down for a 23-year-old or 24-year-old or even a 30-year-old, but once that population -- your portion of the population is aging, and ...

Schumer, and it's interesting, senate democrats are against the bill but moderate senate republicans are speaking out in the aftermath of the cbo report, and for collins yesterday said changes must be made to the bill before it can pass in the senate, and others taking a wait and see approach. >> i don't think it's good news, even if it's half right. the responsible thing would be to look at the report and find ways with the issues they raised. >> i think my constituents are more worried about the medicaid, and my state is one of expanded the coverage of medicaid as you know, and this proposal...

Ages and in different ways, and overall a 10% decrease, and that's an argument i anticipate you making loudly. >> but you are purposefully -- >> i am not ignoring. medicaid is a separate issue in the cbo report. they say many will leave -- >> you can take 26 million people out of coverage, and guess what? it gets cheaper. you know what you do with that money? you give it to rich people and make them wealthier. that's what they are doing, and to call it anything but that is unfair to the 26 million people who will lose coverage under this plan. >> as i said, i am not arguing one way or the othe...