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Things about this indictment is it included photos to illustrate just how vulnerable these secrets were. that one photo where you see in a storage room, they was documents strewn across the floor. we're talking about secrets in those documents that were only meant for a handful of very close allies. this indictment also lays out two incidents where trump allegedly shared classified information in person with people who didn't have clearances. the first incident that prosecutors cite is the one you and me and pait lkatelyn polant broke, the meeting in pedestrian minister in 2021, where he told ...

What is his defense going to be? i mean, that matched with these extraordinary pictures, you wouldn't have documents of this level of importance on a stage in a ballroom in your home or even in the bathroom at the shower. what can his defense be? what is it going to have to be? >> you know, his defense has got to be something like, look, i'm the president of the united states, i can take these documents with me if i want to. they're declassified the moment i walk out the door. >> he's tried that. >> the problem with that argument is that none of those are true. he can't declassify them by thin...

>> "i dream of jeanne." >> remember, he was on sean hannity's show, and sean hannity said, "hey, you'd never do this stuff they're saying." he said, "sure i would. i could do it. i have the power to do it." hannity pushed him more, and his response was, "if i did i declassified a document, the document becomes declassified." of course, he lied at the cnn town hall meeting, saying he could do whatever he wanted to do. he could show it to whoever he wanted to show it to because it was declassified. he thought it was declassified, so it was declassified. what do we find out? in the tape, we find ...

Hypocrite. they thought he was being the funniest guy in the world. when sean hannity's show had trump and he said, i can declassify things by thinking about it, suckers are born every they, and republicans repeat the talking points. he lies and says at the cnn town hall, i can do whatever i wanted to do with it. i declassify it if i want to. we find out with this audio recording, just like the audio recording in georgia, that donald trump is in legal hot water. even trump knows in these recordings, and it goes straight to intent, doesn't it, that he can't declassify just by thinking about it....

Recording but described sources saying what was on the tape. nbc hasn't confirmed, and trump denied any wrongdoing. joining us is "the guardian's" hugo lowell, who matched cnn's reporting. not having listened to the tape, but hearing accounts from people who have, what did the former president say, and what does it tell us about what he knew about the documents in his possession? >> our reporting suggests he went a little further. on the tape, he made a suggestion that he should have declassified military document relating to iran when he was in the white house and he still had presidential po...