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They tell them they can't stay there. i won't delineate, but the south american people that i know are very hardworking people. >> and you can't say that. >> and you can't have open borders in a welfare state, and not some nutty right wing libberer taryne salib er error -- libber tarylibertarian but it was buddy freedman. >> i have to say that i grew up in texas and i agree with charlie, yes, some hardworking families, but there are big difficulties that cause legal americans troubles and that is housing and health and things, but going back to $2 billion here, and where is that going to go? 4...

Catholic and as a christian, you are compelled to protect life. you can't delineate, okay, public policy from you. you have to protect. outwardly protect it. am i wrong on that? >> no, you are absolutely correct. >> all right. so it's a charade when they make this rationalization. now, i wonder if the pope or any of his guys, pulled kerry aside and said this is the deal. you're compelled because his whole career, john kerry as senator has been very ardently pro-choice. i will give you the last word. >> well, there is a certain phrase in scripture, strong delusion. and some ways it's covered el...

Catholic and as a christian, you are compelled to protect life. you can't delineate, okay, public policy from you. you have to protect. outwardly protect it. am i wrong on that? >> no, you are absolutely correct. >> all right. so it's a charade when they make this rationalization. now, i wonder if the pope or any of his guys, pulled kerry aside and said this is the deal. you're compelled because his whole career, john kerry as senator has been very ardently pro-choice. i will give you the last word. >> well, there is a certain phrase in scripture, strong delusion. and some ways it's covered el...