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Hispanic voters. >> wow. >> if i can. >> go ahead, quickly. but i want to get larry in. >> okay. really. we have to take a strong position. i have to disagree with ann very much so on that. if republicans walk away from this and think that pro immigration reform is a way to win a gain, then we're going to see many more defeats along the lines of eric cantor. if you just look south, if you look to the south of governor -- excuse me, senator graham, who ran very pro immigration reform, took bold leadership in the stance and defeated many tea party interest with 5 the%, the logic doesn't make sin...

It has everything to do with immigration. other say don't overplay that. you're former governor of new mexico, where does this leave reform? >> this is a bad day for reform. the leader is traditionally in charge of scheduling legislation. if the speaker and majority leader were saying at one point they were ready to send some peace mill legislation, i would say it isn't a death mill but doesn't look good for immigration reform. it may be a victory for the pea party tonight, but i think for the republican party long-range, even then the elections this coming fall, the 2014, i think that democra...