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kimberly: if it passes the senate tonight, which is what we are waiting, to get the senate voted in, it will go back to the house. i can occur, there are some messaging issues, perhaps they can sell it better. charlie, i will give you that point. but when people are getting the benefit and the dollars in their bank accounts, and they are able to buy some extra things for their families, make some investments, may be be able to get a mortgage on a home, do something like that, or get that car or pay for education, that come unto me, will swell the polling on it and people will like it. maybe they just have to feel it a little bit more before they love it. i would stipulate, austan, you are right about that, republicans are this is their new slash. they are terrible about messaging anything. they have been terrible about messaging this bill. what i would say is, once this takes effect, the proof will be in the pudding, as you say, ....
Media but now the rest of it is behind closed doors. the hillary email case is a good example. it was closed, right?a and there is nothing classified in there. especially if you are askingg mccabe, what was your role in the exoneration letter? why was the wording letter changed to absolve hillary clinton when originally it was determined she committed crimes? did you change some of the wording along with peter strzok? now, none of that isin classified information. so there is no reason for him to hide behind closed doors for something like that.eh and some of the other information, the dossier, arguably that s not classified either.r. after all it was scheduled by the democratic national committee and hillary clinton. let s get to the bottom of that, was it used for a fisa warrant? again, i would argue that s not classified information. kimberly: david, what s your take? this is doing more to keep president trump s base behind him and supporting him than even this tax cut which i ....
Right, we pay quarterly. and think about main street america. all those shops that line the streets, they re going to be able to reset because of the lower business rates that applies to all of these small businesses. kimberly: congressman, what do you think about this? it seems like they have been able to work pretty well. president trump has worked constituents that have supported him in the past and also worked closely with paul ryan to get this through. look, it s a very big and way around. i think in part we have been shaped by the struggle on the healthcare debate. and it was a very difficult time to go through and incredibly disappointing. people on capitol hill. republicans on capitol hill recognize that. and said, let s not repeat that. there is an interesting dynamic, too, in that there is no defender of the status quo as it relates to our tax code today. the tax code is a disaster. 70,000 pages and it s holding us back. ....
Joining us for reaction are two republican lawmakers, congresswoman marsha blackburn and congressman peter rossman. i wanting to begin with you congressman blackburn, how big do you think this is going to be for president trump s agenda in this is something he promised and needs to get a win on the board and pivotal for 2018 for midterm elections. it is a big win, kimberly, because this is the type win that everybody is going to see the results and the benefits of. almost immediately. after the first of the year, because these kick in january 1, so, employees can go set their withholding, they will be able to take more money home in that paycheck, beginning in january. there are also for our small business owners who are going to be looking at their tax schedules and saying all ....
And what we were able to do in the course of this process is bring a wide range of opinions together around this idea of doing two things. number one, offering real tax relief up and down the spectrum and primarily towards folks in the middle income. and, number two, giving businesses tax relief as marsha just said, to create a different business environment. much more forward leaning. much more investment oriented and much more expansive. that is something that i think most folks are really pleased about. kimberly: where do we go from here, congressowman blackburn, in terms of the president trying to use this for maybe other legislation going forward as sort of a, you know, a framework for support to get people on board, to put some of the legislation forward that he needs? because there was a struggle, you know, with trying to repeal and replace obamacare. this seems to have gone much more smoothly. it has gone much more smoothly. we fully anticipate that you will see healthcare ....