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>> absolutely. listen, we met a lot with mr. koggen and used him for information and research and he was very helpful in helping us get to the point where tack code is large. and piece of that where he was extremely helpful with the committee and helping us to get to the right policy. >> reporter: congress woman, i will lean on your experience here in terps of how things go. so, reports are that garry was trying to soften the tariff language. can you make sense where that legislation is that the president has floated out that he says he will sign tariffs and where people's arguments are and if...

We can do things on both those things for issues. >> reporter: democrats want to see that the table on tax reform and infrastructure. the problem is republicans and democrats are so far apart on so many issues these days. harris. >> harris: mike, thank you very much. let's bring in my political panel for more on the simon rosenberg. the messenger for your party is a little disingenuous to talk about really understanding needs when hillary clinton didn't really bring it for you. >> well, it's not disingenuous. just a challenge that's in front of us. i think senator schumer said democrats are an...

The administration is working on it. we met with a couple members of the president's team, the senate finance committee did. we know how important it is to growth. we got to get to a tack code that is simpler, that reduces rates, hopefully allows businesses to recover their costs more quickly and creates economic growth which will create jobs, better paying jobs and higher wages in this country. we are not competitive in the global market place. we know that. the tax code has to change. it's a question of how we get this done. i think right now, at least with the administration fully engaged, ...

It's really making for a muddy economy. always done so in the history of the planet and yet they want us to believe that's the solution. in terms of dysfunction in washington, that's a problem. i hear business owners talk about it all the time. they don't understand the tack code, what their healthcare costs will be. regulations go up every day. who wants to hire in that kind of environment? so yeah, you can blame washington, but don't bottom line this little two-week time period. this is a problem going on for a long time and is only get worse. >> thank you very much. multi trillion dollar ec...

Importance. any time you change the tax code -- that is not what i'm talking about. changing the tack code. >> bill: there is a philosophy among liberal americans and we are 1 percenters, they can pony up 45% what thisgot and we will spread it around. >> yes. i think you and i, i don't spend so much that i can't afford to pay a little bit more in taxes. i think that is important. it was a good thing by and large. i think it was absolutely necessary to get deeper in a recession. i'm not here to give obama talking points. >> bill: the movie is "argo." we appreciate it. >> factor moves along. and...