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Other day because they were too busy, not one that went into the briefing has come out, said holy cow, your fourth amendment rights have been totally -- that's not happened by the people that have been informed about it. i believe -- i have no reason to believe they would lie that there were 50 plots. you may say that was an easy one, why did you miss all the other ones. the terrorists, can you imagine they're sitting back there watching us have this institution discussion, and in china, i bet you money they're taking snowden's information and feeding it through state television in china to sa...

>> we had a discussion about this earlier, great start in gaining the trust of the government gaining the trust of us would be where they make a promise if some of this data they weren't supposed to be leaking or weren't supposed to be using the wrong way is used the wrong way or leaked, they will prosecute. we're going to go after you, you can't leak data and use it in a way -- >> it is a great idea, but do you trust them to actually go after the culprit that did it? this is an administration who has no problem leaking when it is convenient for them to do the leaking. they selectively prosecu...

Senate. don't at this stage worry about what's going to happen in the house. >> andrea, want to ask you a political, tactical question. should the senate pass a bill that could not pass the house? >> it depends, if you're a republican or a democrat. i think they should because right now in its current form the way the senate bill is looking, it's a mess, and the really good work on it i think is being done in the house. i think john boehner is smart the way he handled it. he isn't pushing his members out without the majority, he knows mid terms are coming out. a lot of the bill turned into a c...

>> that was the question you asked me earlier. something is ripe for abuse, you try to create a way to prevent the abuse from happening, but you don't dismantle something that could possibly save lives. we have to separate the two programs out. phone records, we know that exists, reported by usa today, then p.r.i.s.m. spying on foreigners, not a problem with the fourth amendment. like i say, it is the fourth amendment, not the fourth yemendment. they do it to us. that's why i believe he is a traitor. he could go after the chinese, not us, show us how bad it is. the bigger existential threat is...

Work to do in the senate, a lot. >> i want to ask the two of you something, a similar question. is there anything that the senate could do that could convince the right that this is a good bill? >> i think there is, and it would take -- probably not pass the senate, to get the right on board, it would have to be the border has to be secure first. that's the one issue that's dividing now. now, senator marco rubio watched our show last night, called me, said can we talk about this a little. he said i do want to pass some legalization first, pass a bill first, then secure the border later. i said...