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Gcioss spent where, but this is a problem across a lot of industries, isnt it . We cant pretend somehow there are saints in this elsewhere. There are saints in this elsewhere. There are not. Its a problem everywhere, absolutely. The bbc is unusual in the fact it has been required to publish this information. No other employer in any other sector is being asked to do the same thing. Although they are going to have to publish their Gender Pay Gap is next year. The average figures. They will not be required to put names and numbers out in the Public Domain in the way the bbc has. But almost certa...

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This is the criminal thi-- critl thing to look at here. this is the miracle on the hudson kind of profile you want to have, but this plane far bigger than the one that went down in the water that day. tail first. you hope there aren't billig wa. the other thing to point ut, it was daylight assuming that the seven hours had gone by. y e you could set it down intact. it could sink after that. >> you guys said you're going to bounce. doesn't that kind of offer up the possibility if you bounce there's going to be breakup especially in waters that volatile? >> reporter: you're absolutely right. the...

The crew would be prepared in the back and about 15 degrees of flap, which is optimum but not full because that's too much drag. >> you keep the power going because you would like a second shot or maneuver if there's a problem. we're now 30 feet above the water surface. we're right about stall speed. can you show us the attitude outside of the aircraft? this is the critical thing to look at here. we can bring it up because it is a simulator. look at the aircraft as it would be over the water. this is the miracle on the hudson profile that you want to have. this plane far bigger than the one th...

The wheels. >> not really. you are going to have trouble judging your height here. you are not going to have the a all tim teres. they are not going to be accurate. a stable dissent. >> that's critical here, carol. you want stability. you are coming up to an ocean. you can't control the waves but at least you can control the aircraft. you must keep the wing tips and the engines from catching on a wave, because that will force the plane to twist like that, tumble and break apart. you want to do just like they did on the miracle of the hudson, tail first. can you give us the outside view? i know...