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There are two realities in washington these days. you already know the first one. it's actual reality. where we use information and evidence to reach conclusions about what's happening, where one plus one, look at that, it equals two. and then there's that other reality where you start with a conclusion in your mind and look for anything to confirm it. that may not literally include unicorns, look at that. but it is a place where reality is a conclusion often uninterested and unmoved by new evidence. that second reality is where more and more house republicans seem to live. and after several y...

There are two realities in washington these days. you already know the first one. it's actual reality. where we use information and evidence to reach conclusions about what's happening, where one plus one, look at that, it equals two. and then there's that other reality where you start with a conclusion in your mind and look for anything to confirm it. that may not literally include unicorns, look at that. but it is a place where reality is a conclusion often uninterested and unmoved by new evidence. that second reality is where more and more house republicans seem to live. and after several y...

With one that's not really about pursuing the facts at all? >> you say what elijah cummings and others have said, that this is a political mugging. frankly, i have had my own experience with darryl issa, the committee chairman. he put out a report about housing a few years ago, with a very blatant error. and i saw him in the hall and said, let me prove to you how wrong this is. and he shrugged his shoulders and he said, well, that happens. no regard for the truth. you talked about a double standard. how we treated them. take benghazi and take libya. when many more americans were killed, it was...

There are two realities in washington these days. you already know the first one. it's actual reality. where we use information and evidence to reach conclusions about what's happening, where one plus one, look at that, it equals two. and then there's that other reality where you start with a conclusion in your mind and look for anything to confirm it. that may not literally include unicorns, look at that. but it is a place where reality is a conclusion often uninterested and unmoved by new evidence. that second reality is where more and more house republicans seem to live. and after several y...

Reporting on, how do you deal with one that's not really about pursuing the facts at all? >> you say what elijah cummings and others have said, that this is a political mugging. frankly, i have had my own experience with darryl issa, the committee chairman. he put out a report about housing a few years ago, with a very blatant error. and i saw him in the hall and said, let me prove to you how wrong this is. and he shrugged his shoulders and he said, well, that happens. no regard for the truth. you talked about a double standard. how we treated them. take benghazi and take libya. when many more...