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Differently and this president is being treated differently. when you look specifically at these allegations that we're reporting on, how do you deal with one that's not really about pursuing the facts at all? >> you say what elijah cummings and others have said, that this is a political mugging. frankly, i have had my own experience with darryl issa, the committee chairman. he put out a report about housing a few years ago, with a very blatant error. and i saw him in the hall and said, let me prove to you how wrong this is. and he shrugged his shoulders and he said, well, that happens. no reg...

Damage the credibility of the irs, upcoming irs role in enforcing obama care, going to play a huge role in that. republicans have paid attention to benghazi. it is a life and death issue, and also after that attack, the administration kept up this claim that it wasn't a terrorist attack, it was some sort of spontaneous reaction to an anti-muslim video, which just kind of disappeared as the facts came out. so republicans are going to keep pressing these things. i think the white house probably still views the irs as the most serious one. >> so in terms of republicans pressing, i've had viewers ...

Down a different path with respect to the irs. >> this investigation has been one month, may 13th, it's been a month and you would think he would know something. you're right. the administration says we will get to the bottom of these things. they never give us real help. take benghazi, it took us eight months to get a break through and then only to get hicks to come forward and explain what happened in benghazi. >> who's held responsible? the "new york times" held an interview with a guy having a strawberry frothe and nobody is responsible. with respect to the irs and where they are with the ...

Forefront of getting to the truth when it comes to what happened the night our benghazi facilities were attacked. i know you work closely with senator kwropb mccain on a number of issues. he calls the administration's response to the benghazi events a cover up. do you see it that way? >> i fully agree with senator mccain about this. i mean, let's step back for a minute. take the original talking points that the intelligence community put forth and compare them to what was brought forth that susan rice apparently claimed that she relied on. references to al-qaida taken out, ansar alsharia quest...

For asking the multiprong questions in the beginning. jon: four questions in one. >> that's right. his tactic was to embrace the irs allegations as real. he did stick an if this proves to be true it would be outrageous, but he said he had no time for it, he would not tolerate it, and they would get to the bottom of it, and consequences would come. but fully embraced the fact that the irs may in fact be doing this. he said the investigation would still be going on. on the flip side, on the benghazi investigation he took the exact opposite tact and said, there is no there, there. and then insinu...