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Tactic? >> it's a tactic to not have your name on a bunch of disgraced votes. you want one vote a year. you don't want your name on legislation. that's the sad reality of how o branch has abdicated its responsibility in a thousand different ways. >> talk about schumer and pelosi in all this. do they have any leverage in all this? what do they want to walk away from this meeting with? >> one thing they want to walk away with is some of what has been expressed. daca is very important. some of the congressional hispanic members are at odds with other members of the house over how much they should...

In the system and not have abuses in the past and don't think increasing the size of the government is the answer and the same thing with the regulator at the federal reserve bank. >> let's talk about eric holder, but first, talk about schumer about the ksm trial in new york. >> we know the obama administration is not going to hold the trial in new york. they should just say it already. >> what about that, ron christie? >> they should just say it already, ed. the american people recognize we should not bring khalid shaikh mohammed and these dangerous womens to new york city. it's a slap in the...