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Isil represents a serious and complex threat especially in our interconnected and networked world. but it also confirmed to me that the enemy can be defeated. we will deliver isil a lasting defeat and i am happy to share my thoughts about that campaign with you, but let me turn to the subject of this hearing which is the authorization for use of military force. in reviewing the president's proposed aumf as secretary of defense, i asked myself two questions. first, does it provide the necessary authority and flexibility to wage our campaign. allowing for full range of military scenarios. and se...

On that helicopter a reminder to us that those who serve put themselves at risk both in training and in combat we will work with the services to ensure those survivors or i should say their family members will be well cared for. >> if i could, the committee will join in that. >> thank you. i appreciate the opportunity to be here today with secretary kerry and secretary carter. i just returned yesterday from a trip to the middle east. spent a day in baghdad with iraqi and u.s. leaders discussing our strategy against isil. i also spent a day with my french counterpart and 2,000 of france's sail ...

And here's secretary kerry. >> -- have said, the appropriate present day authorization not, as you said senator menendez 2001 but 2015 statement by the united states congress about the authority with which we should be able to go after, degrade and destroy as the president has said a grune known at isil or daesh. in our democracy, mr. chairman there are many views ar the challenges opportunities that we face and that's appropriate. that's who we are, but i hope that we believe there is an overwhelming consensus that daesh has to be stopped.

Iraq. third, the president's proposed authorization provides great flexibility in the military means we need as we pursue our strategy with one exception, the propose td aumf does not authorize long term large scale offensive ground combat operations like those we conducted in iraq and afghanistan because our strategy does not call for them. instead, local forces must provide the enduring presence needed for an enduring victory against isil. and fourth and finally the proposed aumf expires in three years. i cannot tell you that our campaign to defeat isil would be completed in three years, but...

Curb their influence in the future? >> it is hard. where i disagree with general dempsey, right now, sunni tribal leaders inside northern iraq are watching general sole manny, iran's david pe traits run the show in tikrit and various things, staffed by some sunnis but overwhelmingly large group of shiite militia, and this will drive isis recruitment higher so while he is saying it may help militarily it is devastating militarily in the sense that it is giving fear to the people that you're trying to save and bring back into the political order in baghdad. >> and just seems geopolitically histo...