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Those who are wonder whog he was talking about, vern was a presidential candidate. he was born and raised in a small farm town in texas. his father was a qar -- carpenter and his mother was a teacher. >> at least it was in this country. joy that takes us to a whole different set of topics. let's talk maturity shall we? okay let's talk about that. >> you talk about maturity. bill -- watch it. i'll go back to the charts. you said people develop at different times in different ways. are you willing to stand by that bold statement? >> i am legally not allowed to stand near any statements. >> at wh...

Those who are wonder whog he was talking about, vern was a presidential candidate. he was born and raised in a small farm town in texas. his father was a qar -- carpenter and his mother was a teacher. >> at least it was in this country. joy that takes us to a whole different set of topics. let's talk maturity shall we? okay let's talk about that. >> you talk about maturity. bill -- watch it. i'll go back to the charts. you said people develop at different times in different ways. are you willing to stand by that bold statement? >> i am legally not allowed to stand near any statements. >> at wh...