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Shipment abroad. you're talking years. this is not something that the u.s. could do overnight. >> so this really, for the forceable future, this is just a talk point more than anything else. i'm curious how anybody could get angela merckle merckle and s to sign off on this. >> it is a talking point now. the gas argument. but there's also a kind of a message being sent to putin. if the u.s. comes out strongly saying we're going to accelerate the process. we have been hesitant up until now. we have proved some plants. if we say we'll accelerate that, that signals russia you have to be nicer to y...

Ability for future presidents to respond to crisises that might arise. he'd much rather spend the money on food stamps than on a strong military or support for our troops. >> over the last 24 hours, the alleged dangers the proposed cuts become a talk point on a lot of conservative blogs and television obviously. >> and we start with a fox news alert. defense secretary chuck hagel plans to shrink the military to preworld war ii levels. >> the administration is without question seriously compromising our security, our strategic flexibility. >> i think these cuts are too draconian. >> they don't ...

Consider. let's listen for this. >> the last time i actually drove a car myself was 1996. and i remember it very well. and unfortunately, so does the secret service. which is why i haven't driven since then. >> nia, if you're trying to make people think you're in touch with their lives and how it's going out in and, you know, things like the price at the pump, i think you want to get rid of that "i haven't driven a car since 1996" line. >> you know, probably not the best talk point. but i will give credit to hillary clinton for doing this, for being honest about who she is. i mean, oftentimes ...

Outrage from the media? >> have you been listening to white house briefings? >> this was a bill that was sold on a false premise to the american public. >> we are talking about a very small -- for most americans they are keeping their current health care plan. and this is a better deal for the american people who have to change plans, they're getting a better deal. nothing was -- there's no deception here. the bottom line is that it was a talk point that got out of control. there was a rule and regulation that we passed right after obama care was signed into law that was heavily covered by the...

Respond to the fact that the approval numbers -- >> i gave you a fact, not a talk point. >> but you didn't answer the question. the question was how do you respond to the fact that the law seems to be more popular now than it was just a month ago. >> i guess people are choosing sides. what we do know is that the website doesn't work and it is more expensive. cost of insurance is skyrocketing. and people are paying more and getting less. that's the result we're hearing. >> i'm out of time. at some point we should have you back and carve out 10, 15 minutes for a conversation. >> i would love it....