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Back against. there's a benefit to them of separating it out. >> i think they will. i think they will get over this hurdle. they will make their case about -- as we saw reince do this morning. but i think at the end, they will because the tillerson nomination potentially will force them to. >> doris, go bigger picture for me here as you are better at than anybody, which is to have a president-elect go after the cia like this. presidents and the cia have had disputes before. it usually doesn't bubble up this public. >> nixon had enormous hostility toward the cia. but he knew the cia knew he had...