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If mexico pays for it or not. they like the concept of national security when it comes the thinking about the border. you are from arizona, you know better than a lot of people. you do see it differently, where you stand is where you sit. if you are in arizona or a border state you might think about it differently. you don't care who pays for it. >> yeah, like i said from the beginning if americans want border security they're going to have to pay for it. as a sovereign nation if they want the security on an international border they have to foot the bill. the president making that promise, wa...

Sense to any of us as lay people either. >> i've got a question for you, captain. >> just quickly. >> every pilot is talking about this at the moment, aren't they? this is the big talking appointment in the industry. >> it's a big point, yeah. these are one of our colleagues that we've lost, and we need the answers. we really need to not only for these four grieving people, we need answers for them. that's what's the most important thing, but we need answers to find out how we prevent this from happening again, whatever it is that occurred. >> it's such a great point, richard, you just brought...