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Pursuing is in not working have to have some new strategy have to rethink. this iran is a tough country to negotiate i don't dismiss that. >> they are not rational on the other side. so many times when we have negotiations with the qatarys, which we went through with a number of people, th a little bit more willing to listen to rational arguments. other governments, whether it's mexico or the philippines, for instance you can really make a lot of progress by talking rationally. however, with iran all bets are off. this is a country that has lied and they have lied to the u.n., they are not tru...

Ago today that actually -- i don't know, was the sign of hope i thought. >> the q & a? >> yeah. >> this may sound silly to a lot of people. one of the things we see when we go out that's really frustrating is the cable news wars. everybody attacking each other. i really liked the fact that bill o'rile eye and jon stewart got on -- these are two people. two really powerful tv presences. huge audiences and nice to see two people who go after each other, sitting down, talking rationally. >> absolutely. >> and we are at a stage in america we have got to begin a healing process. we've been at war p...