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Surprised to you. >> when i was the victory fund and institute we did trainings. helping people run for office. you'd be surprised the sheer ignorance i won't call overt racism because it's not knowing that people have around candidates of color and certainly around black women. i appreciate the black you have done this block. it made me excited to sit here and watch this. >> talking thome and we went to several -- several different trainings, the one thing about these women is they're not going into this blind. they have a really good understanding, for example, that black women are told it's...