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Would tell you that he will override because i'm giving him that power. >> he seems to use the words torture and waterboarding interchangeably but will defer to his secretary of defense. what do you make of this? >> i think it's part of the same phenomenon. he thinks this portrays him as a tough guy by saying i'm for are torture, but i'll defer to somebody else. the tough guy here is general mattis. he's the one who understands battle, who has been in battle. he understands that torture doesn't work as he has told the president, that you get far more with a cigarette than you do with coercion....
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