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He adds it seems to be good for him politically. joining us pam bondi, special advisor to the president. key member of his impeachment defense team. during the break you said you wanted to respond to director comey. >> sure do. chris: go ahead. >> he is right. the men and women in the fbi deserve much better than what they had in james comey. that man was fired in disgrace. he must have read a different report than we all read. he presided over the fbi in times worse than when j. edgar hoover was at the fbi. that man led the fbi and it's unbelievable. that steele dossier was essential and cent...

Doesn't make it part of the broader mosaic, makes it the center peas of the whole fisa application. >> i don't understand it to be saying that. i could be wrong about that. chris: i got his quote here. he says, we concluded the steele reporting played a central and essential role in the decision to seek a fisa warrant, that it pushed the fisa proposal over the line in terms of the establishing probable cause. i mean he says what he says. words mean something. >> yeah. i agree with his characterization. i'm just, i don't see the disconnect between the two of us, i'm sorry i'm missing it. chris:...

He is saying i told him one thing and he wrote something else. the fbi knew that. >> yeah, but that doesn't drive a conclusion that steele's reporting is bunk. there are number of tricky things. you're interviewing subsource after you will the report has become public. as counterintelligence investigator is he walking away from it because it is now public? that has to go to into your assessment of mr. steele. chris: if it had become public just barely. this is january 2017. this isn't two years later. >> when it blew up, published by whatever the outfit, bus feed was all over the news. it had ...

Apparently you did not know at the time steele's main russian sources told the fbi that he had misrepresented what that russian source said and fbi knew at the time that quarter page in fact was acting as a contact, unofficial source for the cia. given what you know now, we talked earlier to director comey. he basically said i was wrong in what i represented back in 2018. are you willing to admit you were wrong in your defense of the fbi's fisa process? >> i'm certainly willing to admit that the inspector general found serious abuses of fisa that i was unaware of. had i known of them, chris, y...

Bunk, but the fbi goes back and renews its fisa application three more times and by this point the fbi knows that the steele reporting is not credible. >> yeah i think you're mischaracterizing both what the fbi knew and what mr. horowitz says in his report. they didn't conclude the reporting in steele was bunk. they said there were questions about subsource reporting that should have been included in renewals. when i brief the president, i said i didn't know whether it was true or not, i just needed him to know about it. chris: i think you're mischaracterizing. steele isn't, horowitz isn't say...