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Promote his hotel. this is a violation of the domestic emoluments clause, which caps the president's compensation for his services at his compensations set by congress. he is not entitled to milk the taxpayer right, left, and center. and that's what he's doing here. this is illegal as well as immoral and illogical. take a look at attorney general barr, he's -- >> we'll get to barr -- >> yeah? >> i've got a slight tape delay, my fault. but i want to get to barr. let me play for you a little more from what i do think a is an important test, which is that donald trump isn't only failing the ethic...

The level of an obstruction case in part because they said there was no underlying crime of conspiracy. but the reason this will live on as a controversy is that the whole point of mueller being appointed is that he was an independent counsel. not called that technically, but a special counsel. not appointed by donald trump. william barr was appointed by donald trump. rod rosenstein was hired by donald trump. so they made the decision to clear essentially donald trump of obstruction and congress is not going to stand for that. they'll want to know exactly what mueller said about it. because he...

Actually thought that was fair. he did avoid answering what that reporter wanted, but it was an interesting way of doing it. >> harris: what was interesting is the timing of that conversation back and forth, too. you talk about the tape delay, there have been just a few minutes and a breath to take. fox news is now advised of a revamped schedule for the house to pass individual spending bills. perhaps, jonathan carl and other reporters would have been getting some of the same information on their phones. >> kennedy: especially with the softening among senate republicans. those in purple states...

Hotly right up to the moment the tape rolled. >> but on september 21, 1998, all four hours of the president's testimony was made public. it caused, of course, a media frenzy. >> the video was boring. the camera never moved. the script, on the other hand, was so racy that abc and cbs broadcast all or part of the show on tape delay. >> did i want this to come out? no. was i embarrassed about it? yes. did i ask her to lie about it? no. did i believe there could be a truthful affidavit? absolutely. >> it didn't hurt him in front of the grand jury, but it did hurt him in the court of public opinion...

Hotly right up to the moment the tape rolled. >> but on september 21, 1998, all four hours of the president's testimony was made public. it caused, of course, a media frenzy. >> the video was boring. the camera never moved. the script, on the other hand, was so racy that abc and cbs broadcast all or part of the show on tape delay. >> did i want this to come out? no. was i embarrassed about it? yes. did i ask her to lie about it? no. did i believe there could be a truthful affidavit? absolutely. >> it didn't hurt him in front of the grand jury, but it did hurt him in the court of public opinion...