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Shock our viewers but that's what we learned. what we make of the tape itself, the leaking of it, is this within the law, are there ethical and legal implications of this? >> it is likely within the law and that new york is a one party consent state. as long as cohen is a consenting party on the in conversation, he makes it under the wire. the ethics issue is much more serious. i consider this to be flagrantly dishonest dishonest and disloyal act by a lawyer, it's not the first time i have been shocked by michael cohen style of practice. most lawyers would find this deeply unethical. at one ti...

Shock our viewers but that's what we learned. what we make of the tape itself, the leaking of it, is this within the law, are there ethical and legal implications of this? >> it is likely within the law and that new york is a one party consent state. as long as cohen is a consenting party on the in conversation, he makes it under the wire. the ethics issue is much more serious. i consider this to be flagrantly dishonest dishonest and disloyal act by a lawyer, it's not the first time i have been shocked by michael cowans style of practice. most lawyers would find this deeply unethical. at one t...

Do they want do with this tape that cohen's lawyers have released? are they seeking any recourse? >> it's still sort of an open question, and even the tape on how to handle it. a couple things. one is the president himself, at least our understanding, is he knew this was coming. he knew the tape existed. he knew what the transcript said, and he knew that it was likely to get leaked. so it caught other people by surprise, but not the president. and the tape itself, as you know, is a tricky thing because it's hard to hear. it's a little unclear. we don't know and nobody exactly knows how much, a...

Had been committed and that there was evidence of the crime in the location that they wanted to search, which would be cohen's offices or home. in terms of -- you know, bank fraud, wire frauds, serious crimes. it's very easy to commit a bank fraud. you know, a false statement to a bank on a loan application or a false statement to a bank when they're trying to do their due diligence about why you're opening an account and you're lying to the bank what the purpose of the account is could be a federal crime. so those are all crimes cohen could be investigated for. see where the evidence goes on ...

So those are all crimes cohen could be investigated for. see where the evidence goes on that. in terms of the tape itself, one of the thoughts is if cohen is saying trump didn't know about the stormy daniels payment, one of the things the prosecutors are going to want to look at is what other payments did cohen make or possibly make, and did trump know about any of the other ones? if trump knows it tends to undercut the idea trump didn't know about stormy daniels. prosecutors build these cases by going piece by piece. the stormy daniels payment comes very close to the election. the tape on the...