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Said, it was john dean, a person from the inside, saying, "i met with nixon, it was a coverup, nixon said, lie, stonewall the grand jury." but that really didn't break it open until alexander butterfield, who was in the white house -- nixon white house inner circle disclosed the secret taping system. but the secret taping system in all of that detail about the criminal activity of nixon didn't turn what was going -- going to happen. it was the republican party then, almost 50 years ago, exemplified by barry goldwater, saying -- going to nixon and saying, you're going to be impeached, the trial...

Bob costa said, it was john dean, a person from the inside, saying i met with nixon. it was a coverup. nixon said lies, stonewalled the grand jury. but that really didn't break it open until alexander butterfield who was on -- in the white -- nixon white house inner circle disclosed the secret taping system. but the secrets taping system and all of that detail about the criminal activity of nixon didn't turn what was go -- going to happen. it was the republican party then, almost 50 years ago, exemplified by barry goldwater saying go in to nixon and saying you are going to be impeached. the tr...

With what is happening in the january 6th committee. we work simultaneously with senator irvin select committee, and there was no problem coordinating. we ended up giving our evidence to the impeachment committee because we got more evidence quicker and felt it was a road map but we also benefitted by the irvin committee. we learned about the taping system from a question asked in a public hearing by that committee. so they can work very well side by side and there is a time factor here and i agree that it is a year, almost celebrating the year anniversary of january 6, not an anniversary that...

Bombshell. it has been shocking. and it reminds me of actually the disclosure of the white house taping system during the watergate hearings. i don't think once you kick open that door, michael, that you can close that door anymore. i think there is going to be a lot of pressure for congress to start connecting these dots and getting the evidence. and i do think that the justice department is going to be looking carefully. as you know, h.r. haldeman ended up going to prison after watergate for obstruction of justice, for perjury. so just because you were chief of staff doesn't get you off the ...

Weakens any claim for executive privilege here. >> we're watching these events play out. i'm transfixed by these things, but when i step back, i say to myself, maybe this is just the preamble because i'm sure paying close attention are folks at the justice department. and then you heard what i just revealed and discussed in detail about liz cheney, which sounded awfully like the statue i was quoting. what do you think the justice department appetite is for what we're watching tonight? >> well, i have to say that i've been following this, and the last day or two has been like a bombshell. it ha...