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In the same hearings there was a taping system richard nixon put into the white house in order to tape conversations, which turned out to be a big tax dodge, ironically, but at any rate those tapes rob rated to almost to the word what john dean had testified to in a public hearing and the public knew that. the politics was completely different because the whole story was out and the problem we're experiencing now we have a 400-page report that has just as much material in it incriminating, the crimes explained and the use of social media. the problem is the democrats somehow have to take that ...

Impeachment if our public polling approaches similar numbers? >> yeah, i think polling's going to matter a lot but, remember, it's really all about television. and as much as we do on cnn to cover things, it's one thing if it's everybody's covering nobody expected john dean to come forward. nobody realized that the white house was even -- nixon was having a taping system. so the -- by impeaching trump you would find a lot of new information that could be very damnable in the end. but remember, bill clinton may have rose and surprised people after being impeached. but in 2000 al gore didn't wan...

They're concerned that americans, when they hear descriptions of the things in the mueller report, when they hear people describe them, that they'll be upset or hear something negative they didn't expect would be there. by the testimony of john dean. of alexander butterfield, who revealed the existence of a taping system. the people who were involved in the dirty tricks campaigns. and many who voted for nixon, because nixon won in 1972 in a landslide, began to wonder, perhaps this is not the right man for the job. >> if i question is, nixon didn't have a cable news service and conservative med...

Americans when they hear scriptions of the things in the report and hear people describe them. they will be turned off and be turned off by the president. in 1973 the american people were riveted by the testimony of john dean. of alexander butterfield, who revealed the existence of a taping system. the people who were involved in the dirty tricks campaigns. and many who voted for nixon, because nixon won in 1972 in a landslide, began to wonder, perhaps this is not the right man for the job. >> if i question is, nixon didn't have a cable news service and conservative media, basically being his ...

Starting out before they really got rolling, most people dismissed that they would go anywhere. in fact, they were seen to be a nuisance and things evolved like the taping system in the white house, john dean, the cancer at the white house. it accelerated. >> i was in the white house at the time. >> what was the mood like? >> it was nothing. just a couple of burglars going into the watergate. but if you look at the election of 1972, nixon won 49 in 50 states. losing massachusetts. the reason he won is not because he was so popular. it was that mcgovern was like the crazy candidate. now they th...