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So, again, if the question is do we not have the means of tracking down immigrants in the country, there is a vast apparatus that already exists for it. i worked for i.c.e. for five years. i know that. if we need to stop people from voting or whatever, the justice department has an apparatus for that. they're working under this premise that somehow we need to better target immigrants who are here, and we just don't know what the parameters of this are. and i think the most instructive thing today was that they didn't consult congress about the decision. so what are the appropriations committee...

Is portraying it, why did they go to court in the first place? >> and i disagree with kerry a little bit only insofar as this vast databases question. there are no guardrails here. again, if the question is do we not have the means of tracking down immigrants in the crunch t country, i worked for i.c.e. for five yeertz. i know that. we need to stop people for voting or whatever. the justice department has an apparatus for that. they're working under this premise that somehow we need to better target immigrants who are here, and we just don't know what the parameters of this are. and i think th...