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>> yes. >> and you know how they work? >> yes. >> can we take down those exhibits and put up exhibit 214. >> okay. exhibit 214. that's been admitted. it's on the screen is this a picture of your duty belt? >> yes. >> and you would agree that the holster for your taser and firearm are different, correct? >> yes. >> and your firearm holster is empty in this picture, right? there's no firearm in it, correct? >> yes. >> is that this right here? >> yes. >> the taser holster is made of plastic, right? >> yes. >> and you have to push a button this, button right here and rock it back to get it out of ...

Okay. exhibit 214, it's been admitted as on the screen. is this a picture of your duty belt? >> yes. >> you'd agree the hollisters for your taser and firearm are different? >> yes. >> and your firearm holster is different in this picture? >> yes. >> is this right here? >> yes. >> and -- the taser holster is made of plastic? >> yes. >> and you have to push a button, this button right here, and rock it back to get it out of the holster. correct? >> yes. >> and your gun holster is made of leather. is that right? >> yes. >> and it has a little snap. is that right? >> yes, yeah. >> how does that gu...

Okay. exhibit 214. a picture of you're your duty belt. >> the holsters for the taser and the firearm are different? >> correct. >> the firearm holster is empty in this picture? >> correct. >> like this right here. the taser holster made of plastic, right? >> yes. >> you have to push a button, this button right here and rock it back to get out of the holster, correct? >> yes. >> your gun holster is made of leather? >> yes.

Forward in order to pull out. some you have to push and twist down. is the same safety mechanisms it into a taser holster? do you know? and are they the same built for a gun holster? i think that would be one way in the future to avoid one more obstacle for a police officer to realize, wait a minute what i've just pulled out of a holster, i'm pulling it out in a different way than i would pull out my taser. >> anderson i'll get to your question in just a second. whether we look at errors in the mental community, which have been very rell researched peer reviewed well documented in the atomic e...

In. you can't pull it out. different safety mechanisms some you have to pull it out and twist and pull down. is the same safety mechanisms built into a taser holster, do you know and are they the same mechanism used for a gun holster, so that would be one way to try, in the future to avoid, if slips and capture is legitimate to have one more obstacle for a police officer to realize, wait a minute i'm pulling this out in a different way than i would pull out my taser? >> anderson whether we look at errors -- and i'll get to your question in a second. whether we look at errors in the medical com...