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We don't have to divulge what they're doing. whereas if it had been cabinet agencies, they would have forced to divulge who they were meeting with, what the e-mails were, what the topics were. >> did we talk to energy companies? absolutely. you'd have to be a damn fool to put together a comprehensive nationwide energy policy and not talk to energy companies. >> in order for me to get good, sound opinions, those who offer me opinions or offer the vice president opinions must know every word they say is not going to be put into the public record. >> the white house battles to keep secret most ta...

Whereas if it had been cabinet agencies, they would have forced to divulge who they were meeting with, what the e-mails were, what the topics were. >> did we talk to energy companies? absolutely. you'd have to be a damn fool to put together a comprehensive nationwide energy policy and not talk to energy companies. >> in order for me to get good, sound opinions, those who offer me opinions or offer the vice president opinions must know every word they say is not going to be put into the public record. >> the white house battles to keep secret most task force files. and they will ultimately prev...

Getting responses. >> they said, no, these are presidential advisers. we don't have to divulge what they're doing. whereas if it had been cabinet agencies, they would have forced to divulge who they were meeting with, what the e-mails were, what the topics were. >> did we talk to energy companies? absolutely. you'd have to be a damn fool to put together a comprehensive nationwide energy policy and not talk to energy companies. >> in order for me to get good, sound opinions, those who offer me opinions or offer the vice president opinions must know every word they say is not going to be put int...

Getting responses. >> they said, no, these are presidential advisers. we don't have to divulge what they're doing. whereas if it had been cabinet agencies, they would have forced to divulge who they were meeting with, what the e-mails were, what the topics were. >> did we talk to energy companies? absolutely. you'd have to be a damn fool to put together a comprehensive nationwide energy policy and not talk to energy companies. >> in order for me to get good, sound opinions, those who offer me opinions or offer the vice president opinions must know every word they say is not going to be put int...