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Yes ma'am, no ma'am. if a cop stops you, you're going to treat them with respect. you're not going to spit on him, taunt him. you're not going to do the things i've seen done to cops over the last four weeks in these peaceful protests. you're not going to attack cops like they attacked those lieutenants in the peaceful protests. you're not going to burn down a community, my son wouldn't burn down a community. my son grew up to be a cop. he's a cop in newark, new jersey, in extremely dangerous job. >> most of the process weren't that please, counselor, weigh in i'm sorry. >> it works both ways,...

>> well it's a little unclear. one thing we know from the autopsy records, we know dontre hamilton had blunt force injuries to his head and face, he had contusions and abrasions, that's indiacative of being struck by fists or by this officer. it's unclear if the officer was striking him first, unreasonable force and then very well doesn't re hamilton may have had the opportunity to resist that. and they disencourage, the officer separated and there was no gunshot residue on dontre and he fired the 14 shots. is it excessive? why did he need to fire 14 shots, half of them in a downward direction...