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As we work toward a consensus plan that will deliver middle class and tax implication for everyone. secretary mnuchin for the treasury and gary cohn continue to listen to members of congress from both sides of the aisle. and mr. cohn will lead meetings later this week. these meetings are productive and we believe tax reform is on track for the president to sign later this year. infrastructure, tax reform, repeal and replace of obamacare are key to reach the president's goal for a booming and vibrant economy and the administration will continue to work every day to turn the president's promises...

Over 50 employees right now. they have already had to insure their ploirsz or pay that penalty. if that happens and obamacare is repealed, the small business owners are not going to go back and say, you know, just kidding, we're not going to insure you anymore. the employers would have massive uprising and go to bigger corptions who can afford to pay competitive benefits. hopefully this does provide big texas cuts to business owners. some of it is already so entangled and entrenched it's hard to get out from under it. steve: heather, i think you touched on it earlier the man democrats. if you ...

Ryan. i am a big fan of paul ryan. >> he has been there what, 18 years. >> we can all acknowledge that. >> stop making excuses for him. he was the advice presidential nominee. >> here is the bigger issue as they now move into tax reform and look at possibly coupling with infrastructure. all of these things are interrelated. they were talking about obama care. there was a big tax implication to what that might do certainly to the wealthiest americans. as they go down to the bargaining table right now, you have to recognize all of these things are interconnected. if i am a republican, i would be...

Evidence. you are exactly right. let me ask you a question. >> bill: no, no. >> hectoring? isn't this just going after. >> bill: we are doing our job here, juan, trying to find out what happened. >> find out what happened but at some point it becomes wishful filament by republicans he is not a successful president and stop him from doing anything in the second term. >> bill: that's totally absurd. mary katharine, wait. was shulman doing at the white house 157 times? >> they were looking at excessive spending. >> bill: he was there trying to reign in the executive spending. >> talked about the ...

Evidence. you are exactly right. let me ask you a question. >> bill: no, no. >> hectoring? isn't this just going after. >> bill: we are doing our job here, juan, trying to find out what happened. >> find out what happened but at some point it becomes wishful filament by republicans he is not a successful president and stop him from doing anything in the second term. >> bill: that's totally absurd. mary katharine, wait. was shulman doing at the white house 157 times? >> they were looking at excessive spending. >> bill: he was there trying to reign in the executive spending. >> talked about the ...