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Entitlements, spending, taxes, how do you see it? >> i hate to say this on fox, i hope i'll be allowed to leave here alive. but i don't think there's any way we can cut spending enough to make a meaningful difference. we're going to have to raise taxes on very, very rich people. people with incomes of like, say, $2 million, $3 million, $4 million a year and up and slowly, slowly, slowly move it down. $250,000 a year, that's not a rich person. >> you don't think washington just has a spending problem? >> i do not think they just have a spending problem. partly a spending problem but also a too ...

Say, $2 million, $3 million, $4 million a year and up and slowly, slowly, slowly move it down. $250,000 a year, that's not a rich person. >> you don't think washington just has a spending problem? >> i do not think they just have a spending problem. partly a spending problem but also a too low taxes problem. with all due respect to fox and my brothers and sisters -- >> oops. ben stein wasn't sticking to the fox news talking points. he didn't take the bait when steve doocy desperately tried to steer him toward the idea that washington just has a spending problem and that's it. stein apologized ...

>> greta: it also shows naivete if he's saying he's agnostic. i would like to have him explain. >> i think the american people want honesty and transparency from their politicians and they want them to have integrity. i don't think a president says 15 times during a campaign you never have to pay new taxes and 15 in -- and 15 months in, oh by the way i'm going to raise taxes problem. he's going to say we need to do this to reduce the budget that he created. >> greta: i think you missed my point. steve and you are not on the same page. >> no new taxes. >> greta: any way, good night. >> good nig...

>> greta: it also shows naivete if he's saying he's agnostic. i would like to have him explain. >> i think the american people want honesty and transparency from their politicians and they want them to have integrity. i don't think a president says 15 times during a campaign you never have to pay new taxes and 15 in -- and 15 months in, oh by the way i'm going to raise taxes problem. he's going to say we need to do this to reduce the budget that he created. >> greta: i think you missed my point. steve and you are not on the same page. >> no new taxes. >> greta: any way, good night. >> good nig...