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Get off without that kind of a response. it would be presumably proportionate in some way to what the attack is. we're not going to up the ante and have events spiral out of control if we can help it, but north korea is not going to get off scott free if they attack a south korean or american ally target. >> there are 50,000 in japan, 6,000 on the island of guam, and it raises questions, have they gone into a heightened state of alert? >> well, we've -- i assume they have. i don't know that for a fact, but i assume that they have. we've also taken some other actions. there's been some airplane...

Know how to get back and a south korean president, president park, and i can't criticize her for this, she says she will retaliate if there is action taken by the north against the south this is a serious situation. no need to panic at all. give the administration credit for moving the b-2s, b-52s, the f-22s to move the anti missile batteries to the south pacific, but, again, japan setting up anti missile batteries, shows how seriously japan is taking this. >> if i'm hearing you correctly, it sounds like kim jong-un, his temperament makes you a little nervous? >> it has to. first of all, basic...

State of alert? >> well, we've -- i assume they have. i don't know that for a fact, but i assume that they have. but we've also taken some other actions. there's been some airplanes that have flown there, flying over south korea, both b-2s, as well as there's f-22s, as well. there are b-52 -- there's a b-52 flight that has gone there. we have ships which have gone there, additional radars in place. so the united states has responded in kind of a firm way. we haven't used a hot rhetoric that the north koreans have. the heated rhetoric, which hopefully is bluster. and we, on the other hand, can'...

Jong-un, the 29-year-old, spent any time with these leaders at all. it's probably safe to say dennis rodman has probably had more face time than the president of china. >> which adds a scariness of all of this is that there is no communication with him even among some in china that might have some economic influence. you mentioned earlier and jim clancy talked about how much north korea craves this kind of publicity, if you will, and that it always wants something in return. and generally gets it. has the president -- has president obama been smart about not getting into this? we've heard from...

The u.s. has done a lot of that over this past month and over the past years. they continue to do that. we saw that with the b-52s and the b-2s and the other moves made these past couple of weeks. they're reassuring the allies and trying to restrain south korea so south korea doesn't end upstarting a fight on its own. that's an important function. at the end of the day the old policy of strategic patience has not worked, and we find ourselves in the cycle of sanctions, provocation, sanctions, provocation. i think we'll have to think about what is this end game look like? how is it this ends up...