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Moment, gloria, when it got a little touchy there? >> well, we've seen joe biden get touchy before. i think, look, this has been a political issue. when do you invoke sanctions and when do they start to work and how long should they last? and there were some saying you should have done it sooner and some saying that you did it at the right time. he clearly is thinking and believing, as do other nato leaders, that they did it at the right time. as we like to say in politics, only time will tell. and so he is a little touchy about it because people are saying, well, if you had done that sooner, ...

Legitimate here. he was raised as rich kid and think there's like -- from early on some sense of do other -- were other kids hanging out with him doing it because he was a rich kid? he has to always not just win but absolutely trounce the opposition, other side, competition. in a situation where he's three million votes short, there has to be an explanation for him of why it is. has to be that someone did something wrong because there's no other way to look at it than he won in his mind. >> deep-seated fear of not being seen as ledge mate president? >> i would say fear of not being seen. motiv...

Legitimate here. he was raised as rich kid and i think there's like -- from early on some sense of do other -- were other kids hanging out with him doing it because he was a rich kid? he has to always not just win but absolutely trounce the opposition, other side, competition. in a situation where he's three million votes short, there has to be an explanation for him of why it is. has to be that someone did something wrong because there's no other way to look at it than he won in his mind. >> does he have deep-seated fear of not being seen as legitimate president? >> i would say fear of not be...

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