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Clear, this would reduce premiums compared to where we are today, reduce it $5,000 for the average family, cover millions of people. the president in '08 said he was about reducing costs, not doing mandates. this fulfills that rhetoric. >> all right, governor bobby jindal, i have to leave it there. one of the few people in the republican party that's put out an alternative in extensive detail. folks can read it. we'll direct them to it. thanks for coming on. >> thanks, chuck. >> you got it. now to an interesting little tdr exclusive. while i was at the vatican last week, i stumbled on a collec...

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