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my guest is stella moris, the lawyer who worked on his defence team, became his wife, and is the mother of two of his children. why hasjulian assange become such a polarising figure? stella moris, welcome to hardtalk. thank you for having me. it's a pleasure to have you in the studio. over the next few days, the british home secretary, priti patel, is going to make a very big decision on whether to extradite your husband, julian assange, to the united states. does this feel to you like his last chance? well, indeed, priti patel has my husband's life in her hands. we have some avenues...

Over the last 12 years, in fact, what has happened is a flagrant abuse of the legal system in order to persecute publisher, for publishing the truth about the us and its conduct of war in iraq and afghanistan, conducting torture in guantanamo bay, and so on. this is a political persecution, it's a political case. in purely legal terms, i know that you have — at least you in personal terms, but the legal team backing julian assange in professional terms — have put final submissions before the home secretary. so what is the basic argument today as to why he should not and cannot be extradite...

So then you get into this tit for tat fight. but i think this interview is going to be the next big pressure point to watch. that could become a real battle. we don't really see the president's legal team backing down at this point. >> it's so interesting that rudy giuliani now says that robert mueller is subordinate to the president of the united states when bill clinton was president, he said just the opposite. he said that if the special counsel subpoenas the president of the united states, then he has no choice but to go and -- >> those are rudy's words. >> those are rudy's words back then...

Any. he moves forward. it is like the birtherism debate. it percolates with supporters. >> here is the challenge. donald trump campaigned and promised he would not be president of his base, but all americans. his support with all americans continues to go down. as someone who continues to talk about wanting to be in the white house for eight years, he has to approach the job in a way that convinces people not on the trump train to get on it. i don't know he can continue to win if he only has people who are already on his team backing him. >> gallop shows his approval at 37%. >> not enough to w...