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Friday. special counsel john durham filed a motion relating to a potential conflict of interest within the defense team of former clinton campaign lawyer michael sussman. now sussman is among those indicted so far in durham's probe into the origins of the trump-russia investigation but within that conflict of interest motion durham reveals that sussman paid an internet company to infiltrate servers at the white house and trump tower in order to connect then president trump to a kremlin type. that sussman billed the clinton campaign after he hired a tech executive, who quote, come to access and...

An apolitical internet security expert with decades of service to the u.s. government. he has not been charged. the durham investigation is ongoing. >> all right. let's bring in tom, i want you to set this up real quickly. first of all this joffe guy, who is seen as a key player in this field and has been for a long time, this tech executive that is mentioned, is he charged with anything? >> has not been charged with anything. >> has not been charged with anything. okay. you read the "new york post", you read editorials, the breathless -- the breathless coverage yesterday, the op-ed in the "wa...

Many years. this all happened in that court filing late friday by the special counsel. he filed a motion relating to a potential conflict of interest within the defense team of former clinton campaign lawyer michael sussman. he pleaded not guilty to lying to the f.b.i. he is among those indicted so far in durham's probe into the origins of the trump/russia investigation. under this motion with factual background durham reveals sussman was involved with tech executive 1 and internet company to infiltrate the servers at trump tower and white house. he billed the clinton campaign after tech execu...

Point when these other organizations, cnn, abc, nbc, "new york times," politco, will have to grabble with this. i bet this story line will be well, conservatives are pushing this. but again, it's in court documents and it's a very different standard. actually pretexts a newspaper organization from liable. it's not that difficult. report what the prosecutor says he found and see what happens. >> martha: you think about the bungled water gate burglarly to put a phone tap-in. and i encourage people to read this about the tech executive that had access to the servers and using the access that he h...

Interest in ukraine, what do you say to them? >> well, again, i think the number one biggest point and i hate to agree with senator rubio all the time but the notion if you are a large, powerful country can you simply take over your neighbors if you feel like it is a notion that by and large we have kept at bay since the end of world war ii. i mean, that's been sort of the post world war ii. certainly we have the cold war. you know, the battle that was going on there. but of the idea of, you know, a global set of rules and standards, that wouldn't allow that is incredibly important and putin i...