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Costennen will appear in the hot seat and try to explain how there couldn't be a back up. >> sure. we've double scandal here. number one, the fact that conservatives seem to have been targeted prior to an election season as it related to their tax exempt status. he sits there in the hot seat facing the music. they're going to want to know, why didn't congress know is this why didn't you tell them that the e-mails were disappearing or just disappeared when he told other departments in april? was there an attempt to recover these e-mail as soon as what happened in that recovery? we talked to a t...

>> there's got to be some kind of defense app in the works. you're our tech guy. >> against what. >> against this sort of thing. >> do exactly what she did. she used tech to beat the tech. >> what about you, joanne. you're always sneaking glances at people when they are not looking. how might you know if a pervert is taping you. >> well, i smell old spice and desperation. i got a waft and oh, i know. >> old spice is the smell of a perf. it's that smell. i need to go into cvs and shell good. >> nobody under 65 uses old spice. >> i remember the commercial. the guy in the sweater whistling. see, ...

Adnauseam everywhere and the technology is what it is. >> vow saying everybody will know what everybody looks like no matter what? >> maybe your pictures will get lost. who carries? >> you are hacking your skype and all of this and you are video chatting with somebody. >> i don't want to own it. >> i want to bury it. >> that's sick. this was a student. >> an exchange student. >> i know. >> it is like there is a lot of spying. >> first she took pictures of the ipad with the iphone and then she set up a video camera outside the bathroom and he was trying to get her on camera. she is the edward s...

You are our tech guy. >> for what? >> against this sort of thing. >> she used tech to beat the tech. >> what about you, joanne? you are always sneaking glances at people when they are not looking. how might you know if a pervert is taping you? >> i smell old spice and think oh he's back. >> old spice is the smell of a perv? >> it is because it is the general smell. >> man smell. >> it is the i need to go to cvs and smell good. >> nobody under 65 wears old spice. >> i bought it once. i liked the bottle. >> when you are desperate you -- you know. >> i remember the guy in the nice sweater whistli...

Casually breaking the law when they think the law isn't that big of a deal, it could raise an ethical or moral issue. but in general, i don't care. the weed train has left the station a long time ago. and if you're in corporate america and you're worried that your tech guy is smoking weed, you have an issue because i can just about guarantee your tech guy is smoking weed just like every place else. let it go. >> to kevin, where do you stand on this issue? >> you've seen my computer lately, obviously. you know how well this works. >> you know what? i do not support what he has just said about o...