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That. as for ted cruz, he says the tax code has more words in it than the bible. >> yeah. is that true? >> well, you can argue that i'm not sure why that matters except it does make the point that the tax code is complicated. many people, democrats and republicans, agree it's not only complicated but too complicated. and, yeah, if you do a word count on the tax code itself and the bible, yeah, the tax code comes out way higher than the bible. although you might invoke either document when you're trying to get it through it all. >> tom foreman with what is right and wrongs, false, truth. go to ...

And welders, there are a lot of different types, some of whom make a whole lot of money. you might argue if you took all the welders who had college degrees they might go higher, too. but as a simple statement philosophers versus welders, you have to say that what he said is also false. >> okay. what about carly fiorina and ted cruz talking last night about the tax code. set it up. what were they saying? >> well, we're all heading for that time in the spring where we have to deal with taxes. she says the tax code is 73,000 pages long. boy, that's an awful lot of pages to try to grind through. ...