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All know that. it cooke used to be cool to like president obama and now it's uncool to like president obama. >> this is like high school? >> this is just the way the media operates. their trends go in coverage and that's what's happening now. it's stain crisis after crisis to get there, but we're now moving in that direction. >> i've been saying for months since the botchedobamacare rollout, you had the met in iraq. would you disagree with my assessment? >> i am shocked that the press isn't protesting more the rules. >> very restrictive access. >> everyone wants to compare this to katrina. but...

Humanitarian centers about their experience. people would have gone battie. >> my impression, nome, is that liberal pundits are anywhere from disillusions to depressed over barack obama and they want to talk about hillary at this point. >> no, i think there's a fair amount of disillusion. i think hillary is an enormous challenge 230r9 administration. she's a candidate who is is going to have unprecedented stature. you never see this as the person who's likely to replace the incumbent president. basically, already can carry herself as a quasi president herself. >> even 2 1/2 years out? >> even ...

Welcome. >> thank you for having me back. >> when these revelations come out, they seem to create a blip online for a few days, a couple of newspaper stories, and then nothing else. did the tech press basically give these guys a pass to say they're just bad boys? >> you know, i think what's a little disturbing to me about these stories, other than the fact that they're just shockingly horrible behavior from people who should be role models who are employers and supposedly custodians of billions of dollars in market cap, what's really upsetting to me is i think you sort of glosses over this big...

Because they have to be brought up to speed first on what happened and how they did it before they can come up with solutions. this may be a couple months. coming out every day would not be good for the president. so i think he needs to say something, we're on this, he a appointed somebody. that guy can do briefings every day for the tech press. look like he's cracking the whip periodically. >> joy, i guess i just wonder, can this get resolved without a delay in the individual mandate, and can the white house -- how do they negotiate the politics of that? >> of course. listen, i think people a...

All know that. it cooke used to be cool to like president obama and now it's uncool to like president obama. >> this is like high school? >> this is just the way the media operates. their trends go in coverage and that's what's happening now. it's stain crisis after crisis to get there, but we're now moving in that direction. >> i've been saying for months since the botchedobamacare rollout, you had the met in iraq. would you disagree with my assessment? >> i am shocked that the press isn't protesting more the rules. >> very restrictive access. >> everyone wants to compare this to katrina. but...